i walked to the station yesterday to meet a friend, and on the way, in what must be the quietest street in the entire suburb, were two j.witnesses and their little cart, all set with a literature display.
i wondered what point there may have been to choose that location.
i felt like grabbing one of their bibles and reading matthew 5:15 to them:.
The only cart I've seen, was in San Francisco. They were right in the middle of tourists, beaming with big smiles. These were not the shrinking violets that most everyone has been talking about. I think the Brother was enjoying the attention cause he actively engaged people.
So there is always a rogue JW willing to go the extra "smile" despite what the guidelines are. Unless of course, the powers above decided that San Fran was a great place to actively barker their wares.
hey guys,.
i've been trying hard to locate a comment that was posted no longer than a few weeks ago (if that) by a poster providing a challenge for witnesses to find one scripture that states that we are still saved/have hope if we are outside of this "new covenant" that wt claims is for the 144,000 only.
the thread was to do with ways we can wake up a loved one and this particular poster (i can't remember who) gave a step-by-step guide to helping witnesses waking up using their own bible and doctrine.
Well I think I found your post. But I can't cut and paste it. But maybe it isn't since it is old.
It's from a poster named Terry from 4 years ago. The title is "An open Challenge to active JW's"
Hahaha I'm crazy but I think this is the last try for me.
we all know the moment that a nice family chat is moving to the propaganda game.. sister in law saying that jw.org is the highest ranked website, cousing saying that the new hq is energy neutral, aunt stating that jw have the best education.... what can we say on these moments?.
that br splane just likes these new light ideas?.
that a jw.org video stated that jw use the name jehovah because people recognize this name?.
About the website - you could say I remember when the WT published a picture of computer cord likening it to a Satan snake. Now the WT embraces it and exposes all of it's followers to it's influences. (of course, good for finding out about the WT secrets and so bad for them ha)
My mom threw away a computer she had gotten for free because she was so afraid of the evil internet.
so i visited the netherlands last week and decided to stop by giethoorn.
this is a town whereby many (if not most) of the homes are accessed by small boats via narrow water canals.
during the summer months, the residents of this isolated picturesque town welcome visitors with their seasonal tourist attractions such as canal cruises on eco-friendly boats, restaurants and a small museum which highlights the history of the town.
I like how they blended the cart into the tree. Even they kind of blend into the bushes. Hahaha how funny it would be if they actually hid in the bushes and only popped out when someone looked at the cart.
It reminds me of this (probably made up) story from the WT. About how someone visited a religious cave and was caught by their arm by a person hiding inside a small niche in the wall. They wouldn't let go until you paid for a small cross. Gives me the same pathetic feeling.
hey guys,.
i've been trying hard to locate a comment that was posted no longer than a few weeks ago (if that) by a poster providing a challenge for witnesses to find one scripture that states that we are still saved/have hope if we are outside of this "new covenant" that wt claims is for the 144,000 only.
the thread was to do with ways we can wake up a loved one and this particular poster (i can't remember who) gave a step-by-step guide to helping witnesses waking up using their own bible and doctrine.
You know, I had something like this happen to me too. I couldn't find a post either even when I went back page after page. Then out of no where it was there.
The eternal triangle of missing socks, posts and car keys.
hey guys,.
i've been trying hard to locate a comment that was posted no longer than a few weeks ago (if that) by a poster providing a challenge for witnesses to find one scripture that states that we are still saved/have hope if we are outside of this "new covenant" that wt claims is for the 144,000 only.
the thread was to do with ways we can wake up a loved one and this particular poster (i can't remember who) gave a step-by-step guide to helping witnesses waking up using their own bible and doctrine.
I tried using the phrases you had in your comment, but the problem is, 15 year old posts popped up. Since you cannot sort from newest, you have to wade thru lots of old posts. Even your post showed up on the second search page using your key words.
If you have time to sort of waste, you can start from the beginning and work your way back in each topic. If you have some idea of when you read it, like 20 days ago, you can just keep hitting the NEXT button until you get to that time frame.
It would be easier for you than me, tho I gave it a try. Just nothing to jiggle my memory since I didn't read that post.
just for fun, some thoughts about the paradise teaching:.
will all the carnivores be transformed anatomically?
if a lion is transformed into a herbivore would it still be a lion?
My picture of paradise was of quiet. People unafraid as well as the animals. I reasoned that if the bear was an omnivore, other predators could be that way too. Animal birth rates would slow down, the dead animals (and the dying) would be taken care of by previous carnivores now omnivores.
I thought of people spending their time with families and friends, inventing, doing art, traveling. I could spend a lot of time just watching bugs and gardening.
When the society came out with pictures of paradise being filled with meetings and studying yet more books - it reminded me of some twilight zone episode. You know, where you've sacrificed your money, time and family to get there - and it turns out to be another flavor of HELL.
when you were an active member in the jwland, did you expect to receive any kind of help from a brother/sister, but they did not help you?
when i was in the jwland, i expected and was my belief that any brother/sister will help you in time of need, distress or trouble, because we were part of a "lovely organization".
but countless of times when i needed and asked for help, nobody from the org helped me.
I found myself helping out one or two with money. They were poor and I have the mindset of helping. But now I realize that they spent their money poorly and expected others to bail them out. To be fair, one of them would sometimes reciprocate with yard work, but that is because we shared an interest in gardening.
I never felt I could ask for help. I wasn't baptized like the rest of my sisters so I always felt like an outsider. I had more help from the worldly guys that I gamed with for a short time than anyone else.
i think most witnesses are simple minded.many are ignorant.
there are a lot of basically "good people "in the religion but i believe many are kind of dumb, including many elders.
do you agree with my thoughts??
In my hall, there were several ladies that were intelligent and had world experience. But the thing is, if a witness comes to your door with a sincere and honest personality, you could make the assumption that what they are saying is also sincere and true. None of the ladies were hypocrites or mean and often had interesting well thought out comments. They were not raised in the "truth". But once you start building on the assumption - if they are honest, then the ones leading them are honest too, then you might ignore other signs that all is not right.
I used to think after reading how terrible it would be to take God's name in vain or use God for unscrupulous means, they would never do this (the GB) because they would lose all hope of everlasting life. If you were to suggest that this isn't so, I wouldn't have believed you.
There is also those who have experienced or seen terrible things in other religions. Maybe JW's from this view, seem a whole lot better.
Anyway, once you have assumed that this is the only truth, you no longer look. That makes you "dumb" even if you are smart.
i need to get this off my chest, as i don't have many people to talk to about it who would understand.. i feel like i've failed my family, as not only have i been unable to get my parents and brother to see sense regarding the cult, but now my sister, who never got baptised but managed to escape twenty years ago, is now seriously considering going back for various "emotional" reasons, and i know that she won't listen to me.. i know they have all made their own decisions (at least, to the extent that brainwashed people can make their own decisions), and i can't really blame myself (even though i was the one who, when only ten years old, convinced my mum to listen to the poor lady on the doorstep out of politeness rather than just shut the door on her - so it is all indirectly my fault), but it still feels like i've failed them..
What if..... you didn't talk your mom into listening to her and the lady came back a month later and converted her? How would you feel about the situation now? Relieved and saying to yourself, it's too bad they are in this crappy religion, but it was their choice?
Well, I often get hung up over What Ifs ? ? ? ? ?
But after awhile, I say to myself, I can't change the past, I have to just go on. You can neither change the past (like in a movie) or their decisions.
As a ten year old, did you know what the religion was about? No. You had empathy for a poor little old lady which shows you are a caring individual. Just like now, you are caring about your family.
Regrets are hard to deal with but by dwelling on them, you will not be helpful to yourself or them. (hahaha so says me who has to deal with this almost everyday) But I did get better at it.
